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On 10/17/2007, Stuart wrote:

I found your site by visiting C4TF. Woohoo! My brother in law excitedly endorsed Wild at Heart several years ago and when I read it, I 'bout barfed. Jim is a mature believer and I still don't know why he thought this was a good book. Someone gave me a copy of it, so I re-read it and wrote a short review - posted here: http://www.menofhonorministry.org/Discipleship/WildatHeart.pdf

Grow not weary in well doing ...



On 03/26/2007, Adam wrote:

I really wish the author would read this e-mail, but if he doesn’t, hopefully this will encourage other readers of this book to understand a couple of things. I completely disagree with the review of this book. I understand where John was coming from and going with his points, whether it was using scripture or just implementing Christ in his everyday life. As a Christian I really wanted to say thank you to the author because the book has been a big blessing to me in so many ways. The Bible says you will know someone by the fruit they produce, and nothing in this book has for even a second made me feel like I needed to second guess John, or even his perspective on the Bible. In fact, the book has helped me open my eyes with issues I had with my father, and has also helped my marriage. So to John I commend your book and will continue to recommend it. Your hard work has been nothing but a blessing.

To the ones who did the review, since were in a critiquing mood let me say something about your work. Your points were just flat-out weak. They really held no water, and the more I read them (because I gave you a chance) I am almost convinced you really don’t have a clue what your talking about. This is not an I brag me on my part, but I’ve been in the Special Forces, I’ve also been a professional musician and been around with that. Oh I’ve also enjoyed some time behind bars, but my God has never quit on me and now I have a Masters Degree in Theology and Biblical Studies, and I’m commenting on Christian books. Why am I telling you all this? Because I am a real Christian in a real world, and deal continually with real problems. It was great to read material about how to be a godly man without having to be a cupcake. (You know what I mean) I hope the author doesn’t read your sight, but if he does I pray he lets it roll right off his back.



On 03/07/2007, Mr. and Mrs. DeLano wrote:

Great review and much appreciated :) I did find reading the page somewhat difficult with the colors, font and background, but the content is great!!!
Mrs. D.



On 12/05/2006, Joe/Deb wrote:

Its very interesting that some one would take the time to bash John Eldridges Wild at heart book, its also interesting that the bible is misused for this type of bashing, funny I was just telling a young man about the book today in hopes they may discover their true identity in them selves. Its too bad this web site will try and pursuade people far from the truth. Its obvious to me,that your web site, the research was done by an unbeliever in Christ, otherwise you would have tied the Old testiment with the New.ie, doesnt Adam have his own choice, yes of course he does, and just like a man to want to try and do it for himself, (Falls) short of the glory of God, just like the rest of us. you were misguided, Jesus is the only one who never fell, thats why its so important to lean on the Christ, so that we who are fallen from birth, dont dare do it alone, the battle belongs to the lord God. Remember your on holy ground when you start talking about God and then trying to bash some one else, not good, actually it leaves me a sinking feeling in my heart. The truth is that Wild at heart opened my eyes, in adition to the good news it saved me, I was able to start a life long journey of healing, not always easy, when people like yourselves try and blind fold others, thanks to this north american life style, I didnt know who I was until I met Jesus, and now I'm rediscovering my masculinity. It continually amazes me that people constantly try to fix whats not broke, ie, this web site. Thank you for reinerating my strength in Jesus, may you one day discover the truth, Jesus said it best, " I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me." John 14:6 God bless and show you his understanding.
Joseph



On 08/22/2006, Kevin wrote:

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ Jesus,
I just read your views against John Eldridges' book Wild at heart and felt compelled to write to you. I have to wonder if your organization has some personal argument with the author. The book is clearly offering men an examination of the God given maleness created in us. For far to long the "good Christian folk" out there have attempted to force men into a mold that we do not fit in. Just as they try to put my Father, Abba God, into a nice neat little package for us to open up on Sunday mornings. To imply that issues that plague the Christian man such as anger, lust,and our insecurity about our place in Gods sovereign plan, should not exist if we're really good Christians, is a lie that our common enemy beats us up with daily. I ask, how can we begin to be true in our relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, if we are not true about ourselves and who we are and where we come from. We are born anew in Christ, but that certainly does not eliminate the selfish fleshly nature in us all. More so, we could dissect ANY Christian speaker or pastor based on the illustrations that they use to convey Gods word and say it doesn't comply with scripture. It's not scripture, it's an illustration. I'm sad to say that most Christians in the U.S.A. at this time are lazy and noncommitted. I also believe, as the Holy Word of God tells us, that in our weakness He is made strong. Though Christian men and women are not being martyred in the streets in this country the Bible seems to indicate that they will be. It's at that time I do pray that we Christians are indeed Wild at Heart.

The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.

The truth that is being conveyed in this book is ; Men, stand up and be the men God created you to be. If you can't, look to God for the answer why. The authors intent does not sound evil to me or thousands of other strong Christian men. My prayer is that we would all heed the words of The Son Of The Living God. Don't stop them. for if they are not against us then they are for us.

Signed,
Kevin,
A fellow son of God and slave to my Master Jesus Christ



On 08/16/2006, CS wrote:

idiot idiot idiot; you have no idea what the "Gospel" actually teaches. you are enslaved to Pauline theology which can only be understood in reference to the "Gospels." you are just like the pharisees.

stop judging, and start living.



On 08/10/2006, Ray wrote:

From day one my spirit said show me the scripture, so many bought into this book, its only the beginning of more bad theology so thanks very much for posting the Truth.



On 08/06/2006, Manda wrote:

I would have to vehemently disagree to the main arguments in your review of John's "wildly" OUTSTANDING book. The argument that Satan is not responsible for our short-commings and our sins is false in all aspects. If Satan, appearing as the serpent in Genesis, had not brought to light the fruit that revealed to Adam and Eve their nakedness before God, or for better wording, if Satan had not been around to tempt Adam and Eve, then we would be a people dedicated to the original design of life - to live and be fruitful and worship our Lord. Satan is the theif in the night, the king of darkness - he has as many names as we can fathom, not to forget Lust, Binge, Lies, Deceit, Fornication, etc. Even though you may pin the blame on the person falling into the temptation, Satan is "at the root of all evil". Enough said. Leave John's book alone. This is one of the many ways that men are renewing their lives and following the right path - if you have a problem with it, please tell John. Not the whole world. The Bible says if a brother sins (not that John sinned by writing this book), to talk to the brother first in private. Then, if he does not rectify his sin, to bring it to the elders. Nowhere does it say to write to millions of people about it.



On 05/01/2006, Dan wrote:

I felt that your review of John Eldredges book Wild at Heart is wildly judgemental and to be honest, just plain sad. Your views of scripture seem to me to be severely negative and much of your list above ais taken out of the context of the book. I think that it's sad that you would cripple the freedom found in Christ by diminishing the power that we have through Him as men. Wild at Heart has set more of my male friends hearts free to be the men that Christ wants them to be than any other ministry tool I have ever seen. It breeds the hope that we seek in our Lord and Savior Christ. I pray that you can experience that hope some day and leave the breeded negativity that we see across our faith today behind.



On 07/25/2005, Nathen wrote:

"Eldredge does not offer his book as steps to being a better Christian, but as a "safari" to recover freedom, passion, and adventure."

Above quote was from your review. I don't understand why if, as you said yourself, the book is not offered as "steps to being a better Christian" you would judge it that way. I really feel that you've missed the bigger picture of this book. John is trying to make the point that your heart, passion and desire is not going to be found at the bottom of a "to-do" list or after a long day behind a desk at a 9-5 job; he's simply saying that the passionate and deep parts of our lives are being pushed to the side because our culture tells us that there are more important things to do than explore the masculinity that God has created us with. And because of this sad fact, we have many men in our country and world that are wondering why their lives seem to slip by and many women who are wondering where all the men have gone (not referring to the "act of having a penis" but to the gender role that masculinity plays in a relationship between a man and a woman).

When Eldredge refers to men living from their own hearts, I believe he is referring to the heart that God gave him as opposed to the laws that Jesus came to abolish that are written on the heart.

[You said in your review:]

" '...responsible, sensitive, disciplined, faithful, diligent, dutiful, etc. Many of these are good qualities.' (WaH p.xi) ...I'm still trying to figure out which of these is not a good quality. Eldredge says the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and the people who say that these are good qualities have good intentions. What is he trying to say here? You fill in the blanks."

He's not saying that these things are not good qualities; he's saying that none of these thins are the point.

[You said in your review:]

"It doesn't appear that Eldredge is talking here about the biblical heart upon which God has written his laws because the laws, taken together, would resemble the annoying list of 'should' and 'ought to' that Eldredge can't stand. Note his rendition of 'salvation by pursuit of three desperate desires': Eldredge says that if he doesn't become what he yearns to be, he will lose his soul. That is, if he doesn't pursue the boyish desires written in his heart, his salvation is lost."

The soul that John is talking about is not the one that goes to Heaven, but the "soul" that is more closely related to "passion" and "desire". (more like this one from Webster: 5 a : the moral and emotional nature of human beings b : the quality that arouses emotion and sentiment c : spiritual or moral force)

[You said in your review:]

"But Eldredge has a problem with nagging laws being written in your heart. Those laws just keep getting in the way of your deepest personal desires. The heart that Eldredge seeks is the heart of the fallen Adam."

John is talking about the "heart upon which God has written his laws" but the list of "should" and "ought to" that John is referring to is the list that is placed on us by our culture not the bible or Christ.

[You said in your review:]

"Eldredge teaches that every man's life repeats that of Adam's, that Adam's story "is every man's story". But the fact is that Adam's story is not every man's story: every man except Adam is born of his fallen parents; no man but Adam is responsible for Man's Fall from Grace. The Bible teaches that the opposite of what Eldredge says is true: all men are born into sin but can be spiritually reborn by grace through faith. If it were true that "Adam's fall is every man's story", then every man is created pure but falls during his lifetime ("the wound") and loses the pure heart he was born with. This is clearly unbiblical, and dead wrong... Eldredge treats the sinful heart that one is born with as though it were pure, and he brands the heart of the New Creation as "false". His description of the Fall isn't just unbiblical, it is anti-biblical, and his theology is diametrically opposed to the biblically rendered description of God's plan for our salvation. To build his upside-down theology, Eldredge meshes the "Fall" into his "Wound" (loss of heart) concept, so that all men experience the Fall from Grace during their lifetimes when they are "wounded" by their daddies."

This part of the book is not a direct correlation but a loose parallel between Adam's fall and men losing their youthfulness (which, in John's context refers more to the "pure" masculinity that a man is born with).

[You said in your review:]

"Eldredge says the old heart is good and that the central message of the Bible is for man to get back his old heart (p. 129)... "How does Eldredge propose you chuck those silly "should's" and "ought to's" to get the life you want? Well, he says you've got to get back your own heart. Since it's the heart containing your childish boyhood dreams, it must be the heart you had before you accepted Christ into it. According to Eldredge, you've got to get back the heart you had before the Lord wrote His boring list of "should" and "ought to" in it, then you can be "free" to do the things you really want: fight battles, live adventures, and chase beauties."

The "old heart" he refers to is the heart of passion and masculinity that is stripped from men when they are "wounded" (not stripped of salvation) by their fathers (earthly fathers), the main person who children seek acceptance and worthiness from.

[You said in your review:]

"But the Bible disagrees. There's nothing biblical to support Eldredge's assertion that you should pursue the normal egocentric aspirations of a child's heart to be saved:

"Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him." (Proverbs 22:15 KJV)

"When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways." (1 Corinthians 13:11 RSV)

"Shun youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart." (2 Timothy 2.22 NRSV)"

The childishness in these verses is referring to the immaturity of a child and his lack of experience of the world; Eldredge is referring to the youthful heart because it is full of adventure and passion rather than cooled and hardened by the ways of the world.

I don't believe that Eldredge would argue with you on any of your points. I think that he would simply point out that you were looking for cold, hard biblical facts in a book that is filled with artistic license to emphasize the avenue he is pointing out on the very same biblical stories that you and I believe. I had a friend like you; he turned so many people away from this book before he even read it; and while it's obvious that you've read it, you might as well not have because you read it with a cold mindset. I would strongly urge you to try again because it is a fascinating and terribly inspirational book if you read it with a mind that is willing to try to understand what he is really trying to say rather than what's on the surface.

Thank you for your time
Nathen

PS -I took time to visit your website and learn about your organization; that is a great ministry. God certainly puts us where we are needed and there you are. God Bless.



My response to Nathen's letter 07/31/2005:
I don't understand why if, as you said yourself, the book is not offered as "steps to being a better Christian" you would judge it that way.

I'll tell you why: it is because the book is clearly intended for a Christian audience and Christian men in particular (in spite of Eldredge's nonsensical disclaimer), to increase their understanding of the mind of God and to strengthen a man's walk with Christ, i.e., to be a better Christian. The book, however, fails miserably in this regard because it derives its precepts from man's foolish wisdom (such as Hollywood, pyschology, secular literature, the Dixie Chicks, atheist philosophy, etc. etc.) instead of from God's solid and unchanging word.

The book is marketed to Christian men, which is exactly the author's intent. John Eldredge's assertion that he doesn't offer the book as "steps to being a better Christian" makes him a liar: he clearly offers it to Christians and he is being flagrantly disingenuous to say otherwise. If this book were simply a self-help book about recovering passion and exploring masculinity, then it should be found in the self-help section or psychology section of ordinary bookstores, and I would have no reason to review it. But it isn't. The fact is, the book is intended for a Christian audience, pushed by churches and marketed to Christians, supposedly for their betterment. If what you are saying about the book is true, Nathen, as I grant it could very well be, then this book has no place in Christian bookstores and no place in churches, and that is my fundamental point.

I really feel that you've missed the bigger picture of this book.

No, I caught the big picture. How could anyone miss it? I just don't remember seeing this "big picture" anywhere in the Bible. It is the "big picture" (i.e. the worldview) of this book that I take issue with. In order to get this book to synch with Bible, you have to play fast and "loose" with Scripture (see Adam and the Fall discussion below). WaH could easily be a mediocre non-Christian book sold in the self-help section of the book store. The problem is that it is marketed as a Christian book. The problem is not what the book says so much as the fact that this book highjacks Christian terminology to support what it says. The problem is that Eldredge cloaks his worldly philosophies in Christianity and backs it up by abusing sacred Scripture. What Eldredge says is not outrageous, but his characterization of thorougly profane themes as "Christian" is. Eldredge explicitly describe his worldly perspective as a Christian perspective when it is not.

John is trying to make the point that your heart, passion and desire is not going to be found at the bottom of a "to-do" list or after a long day behind a desk at a 9-5 job; he?s simply saying that the passionate and deep parts of our lives are being pushed to the side because our culture tells us that there are more important things to do than explore the masculinity that God has created us with.

Actually, Nathen, we men DO have plenty more important things to do than to explore our masculinity. There are important commandments in the Bible for us to follow, and exploring our masculinity is not one of them. If we believe that spending time exploring our masculinity is a top priority, then we are vain narcissists. IT IS CULTURE that tells us we need to explore our masculinity and engage in meaningless self-analysis. It is pernicious culture which gave rise to Eldredge's book (which is steeped in popular culture) in the first place. Our pop culture is all about self-exploration and narcissistic preoccupation with our own selves, our own attributes, our own happiness and satisfaction. Those in less affluent cultures have no time to engage in such idle navel-gazing. We're commanded to meditate on God's word, not ourselves. Indeed it is our sinful culture, not the Bible, which ultimately encourages us (and Eldredge) to engage in vain self-exploration and to exalt the creation (us) more than the Creator (God).

" ...responsible, sensitive, disciplined, faithful, diligent, dutiful, etc. Many of these are good qualities." I'm still trying to figure out which of these is not a good quality. Eldredge says the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and the people who say that these are good qualities have good intentions. What is he trying to say here? You fill in the blanks."

He's not saying that these things are not good qualities; he's saying that none of these thins are the point.

Eldredge says "many of these" are good qualities; he does not say "ALL of these" are good qualities. If it's only "many" but not "all", then which ones are not good qualities?

The soul that John is talking about is not the one that goes to Heaven, but the "soul" that is more closely related to "passion" and "desire". (more like this one from Webster: 5 a : the moral and emotional nature of human beings b : the quality that arouses emotion and sentiment c : spiritual or moral force)

That's the problem. What did God mean by "soul" when God breathed Scripture? By your own words, Eldredge is not talking about the same "soul" as the Bible talks about. If I wanted to know what Webster meant, I'd look it up in a dictionary. But I'm not interested in Webster's various senses of the word. I am interested in the Biblical definition. By your own assessment, Eldredge's book belongs in secular book stores, not the church. When Eldredge talks about his meaning of the soul, and his version of salvation, it is NOT Christianity.

the list of "should" and "ought to" that John is referring to is the list that is placed on us by our culture not the bible or Christ.

No. John is talking about the "should" and "ought to" that is placed on us by the Bible and by Christ. For example, is it the Bible or is it our culture that says, that we ought turn the other cheek? Where does this "ought to" come from, which Eldredge says on page 78 of his book we can simply choose to ignore?

This part of the book is not a direct correlation but a loose parallel between Adam's fall and men losing their youthfulness (which, in John's context refers more to the "pure" masculinity that a man is born with).

That's a problem, as mentioned previously. Eldredge plays fast and loose with Scripture. The Bible was not inspired by God to be a source of loose comparisons and weak analogies.

The "old heart" he refers to is the heart of passion and masculinity that is stripped from men when they are "wounded" (not stripped of salvation) by their fathers (earthly fathers), the main person who children seek acceptance and worthiness from.

I know what John Eldredge is trying to say the old heart is. I know what Eldredge means by being wounded. What do any of these things have to do with the Bible generally and the Gospel specifically? The issue is this: there is no biblical basis for Eldredge's worldview, which is built on man's wisdom, the world's wisdom, which is fine with me, BUT Eldredge tries to pass off these ideas as biblical when clearly they are not. They reflect the wisdom, learning, and knowledge of men. That is all.

I don't believe that Eldredge would argue with you on any of your points. I think that he would simply point out that you were looking for cold, hard biblical facts

You mean true, everlasting, beautiful, and perfect biblical facts

in a book that is filled with artistic license

I agree with you there

to emphasize the avenue he is pointing out on the very same biblical stories that you and I believe.

Not quite... Eldredge "spins" biblical stories in order to support his theoretical contructs based on pop psychology.

I had a friend like you; he turned so many people away from this book before he even read it; and while it's obvious that you've read it, you might as well not have because you read it with a cold mindset.

No, I actually read it expecting a powerful and inspiring book. I was surprised and appalled by what I found. This was back in 2002.

I would strongly urge you to try again

I've read it twice from cover to cover and many more times in-between.

because it is a fascinating and terribly inspirational book

So is the Bible. And WaH and the Bible are at odds with each other.

if you read it with a mind that is willing to try to understand what he is really trying to say rather than what's on the surface.

I understand what Eldredge is trying to say. I understand his points. I don't agree with him WHEN HE SAYS his ideas COME FROM THE BIBLE. I would pay no attention to his ideas if he fairly and accurately characterized them as secular. The outrage is that he calls his unbiblical wisdom "Christian" when it is not. The fact is that his book is hostile to biblical Christianity.

In Him,
Ron



On 02/18/2005 Mike wrote:

Gee, thanks for “warning” everyone how bad this book is. Maybe, instead of being just a “critic” (“Its not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better….” Teddy Roosevelt) you should write your own book on how men can free their hearts from the bondages that so cleverly, and many times un-noticed, invade our lives. God Bless John Eldredge for stirring up our hearts to maybe, just maybe, see how we’ve let the enemy take what God intended for us from the beginning. And if God wants to touch our heart or speak to us, don’t you think He’ll use what ever means he can? Even if YOU don’t agree with the messenger? (But Balaam was stopped from his mad course when his donkey rebuked him with a human voice. 2Pet 2:16)

It really is a sad reality that it’s easier to criticize than to do, and ironic that the “commentator” is a pretty good “twister” of Eldredge’s words as he professes that John is. Anyone who reads WAH for what it is, will clearly see that the commentator has his own agenda and maybe doesn’t understand what John is trying to do. I wonder if the critic is “wise enough” to see the true spirit of the book, or if he just wants his 15 minutes to show how smart he is.

“Do not get involved in foolish discussions about spiritual pedigrees or in quarrels and fights about obedience to Jewish laws. These kinds of things are useless and a waste of time.” Titus 3:9

See….. isn’t it easy to judge (oops!) discern others motives?



On 02/13/2005 Marty Bee wrote:

My view is that the critique is not "Pharisaical". Does one call someone a pharisee for telling the truth? You wouldn't call John the Baptist that nor Paul. The real problem is that modern Christianity has gotten away from the admonition of Acts 17:11:

"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (Ac 17:11 AV)

I might ask are you "man enough" to stand up for the truth in the face of 500,000 book sales and endorsements by outstanding Christians? We may not want to hear a critique of something that means a lot to us, but we need to. Eldredge is certainly hitting some hot buttons with men, but the more I contemplate what he wrote (and I DID read the book) the more troubling it all is.

First there is the problem of the Garden, if the Garden was a bad place for man (since he needs to be swinging from the trees and killing lions with his bare hands) why was it a BAD thing to get kicked out of it?

Then there is his misunderstanding of what C. S. Lewis was saying in the Narnia tales. He WASN'T saying that God is like a wild animal, all ferocious and bloodthirsty. Rather Lewis was saying that God is not accountable to anyone. This is a prerogative of God alone, he is completely autonomous.

What of the Gergasene demoniac, did Jesus really need "more information" to cast out the demon? Hardly, the demon was already asking for mercy, his complete authority of such powers is only shown in this passage.

I could go on but let me finish by saying I wouldn't probably fill his bill for a "wild man". I certainly enjoy the outdoors but I also enjoy creation as an artist. We don't focus on just one aspect of what God is like to the exclusion of all others. When he mentions "would men rather be like Mother Theresa or William Wallace?" that is a false dilemna. Christ was truly BOTH. We are to become like him, not William Wallace (or James Bond, or Maximus).



On 12/15/2004 Steven wrote:

I had to re-read your review of Wild at Heart several times as I could not believe we read the same book. I believe that you have missed the message of the book, maybe a little bit of "can't see the forest for the trees". I am not a biblical scholar, but to me John Eldredge has challenged us to follow God's will and live as excited and awakened Christians; not be passive and timid in our lives.

I found joy in this book and it has inspired me to walk with His spirit in my life. If your Christianity is to find fault with people like John Eldredge then we are both lucky to have God's grace.



On 12/04/2004 John wrote:

I read the comments you received. It is discouraging that otherwise intelligent sounding Christians cannot concede to a mountain of evidence against this terrible book.
As in depth as your review is, you could have identified even more error. What a terrible testimony of the short pathetic legacy of the oxymoron Christian Psychology.
Eldredge’s ignorance is only proceeded by his arrogance. I had to leave a church for what was nothing short of a male intervention when I voiced my objections to this obvious departure from sound doctrine. Those dissenting are accused of being in denial of their own manliness issues. What a joke! They do not know the origins of the word “denial” nor the prerequisite belief in the Freudian unconscious. Accusing Biblical scholars of denial, calling into question their own manliness and mental health is the natural evolution of Christian Psychology’s entrepreneurial deception. Wood, Hay and Stumble Is a more appropriate title.

John



On 10/20/2004, Bill wrote:

As in the days of Jesus, there still seems to be a strong hold of Pharisees in the world. I bet you pray that you are thankful that you are not like other "false" Christians. You have missed the very message of this book. God is working the restoration of the masculine heart from being passive "nice guys", into forceful warriors for the kingdom. There are way too many panty waist, milk toast, mamby pambies out there. We need some angry young men who will bring the kingdom of God by force. I will give you that John is a little rough around the edges, but he has presented the spirit of God's principles, if not the letter.

I just returned from Wild @ Heart boot camp in Colorado. It was the best life changing event in all my years on the planet. John's theology covers all the tenants of church and goes beyond to include the power of the blood of Christ, the resurrection, and ascension of Christ. You are spending time straining out a nat, while you are swallowing a camel!

I pray that God will bring you some revelation on this.

IHMS
Bill



On 10/6/2004, Brian wrote:

I have visited your web site and your organization appears to be one that is being blessed by God. For sure you are seeking to do God's work through your ministry operations. However, It seems as though you are coming from a different place than Ramsomed Heart Ministries. I am a Christian and believe wholeheartedly in the authority of scripture. From a personal standpoint Wild at Heart is inspiring to me. While I don't view it as a work intended to break down and explain scripture, I believe it is a good inspirational read and I regularly recommend it to others. I think your review of Wild At Heart is unfair and would like to tell you why.

When I read your comments on your web page it sounds very Pharisaical. It is obsessed with technicalities and ignores, forgive me, the "heart" of what Eldridge is teaching. Jesus used parables (hint: mythic stories) to teach the Pharisees. The parables may not always have been technical true, however the principles were true. Eldridge's value is speaking deep truths to the heart rather than simply breaking down scripture for the brain. Jesus violated the letter of the law on several occasions (but never the spirit of the law). Eldridge may say some things that taking out of context can be construed to differ from bible passages (as you have demonstrated). Your site routinely takes Eldridge's arguments out of context and attempt to paint the picture that he is unbiblical and the enemy. You even compare him to Sigmund Freud, a staunch atheist and opponent of the faith!!

You can judge a tree by its fruit. The fruit of your tree of your understanding of scripture is men who are bound up, obsessed with keeping rules. Whereas the fruit of Wild at Heart has been men who have renewed purpose to live their lives as God designed them. God made us in his image. If you read the Bible the themes Eldridge describes are evident. It is clear to me that you have completely missed the point of Eldridge's writing opting instead to pick apart little details. In almost every case you have misunderstood what Eldridge is saying and read into it a meaning that is not correct. For example, when Eldridge talks about coming alive and living from the heart, you interpret it as a prideful living for self and getting what you want out of life apart from God's sanctification of the soul. You could do the same with the fiction written by C.S. Lewis, one of the greatest Christian thinkers and apologists of modern times who has inspired millions. Eldridge is not writing a bible commentary. He is writing to inspire. He is also writing primarily to followers of Christ. He starts with the presupposition that his reader has already come to Christ. The purpose of his book is not to convert the unbeliever, but to inspire the believer to LIVE - too many men are simply existing beaten down by religiosity that does not resemble

Eldirdge has a unique gift to communicate truths rooted in the biblical stories and teachings to today's generation. I get the impression you would rather man lock himself in a room with a King James Bible and "work out his salvation" that way. Eldridge says study the bible, but also live life. Press into creation and to life in the place where we are (Be in the world not of the world) and work out our salvation that way.

Psalms 37: 1-4 talks about God giving you the desires of your heart. For those who are in Christ we have new life in him. Our desires are becoming his desires because of the work he is doing in us.

I ask you to please spend your time and energy elsewhere. Surely God has called you to something better than to tear down the good work of a fellow brother in Christ!

Brian



On 9/23/2004, Matt wrote:

To Whom It May Concern:
I was deeply saddened by the review of John Eldredges book on your website. It saddens me most that you are making assumptions about John’s standing with God through this kind of personal attack on him.

“Few motivational speakers, real or not, can top that sermon for self-worship. Incidentally, Eldredge's use of double entendres is legendary. But in any true Christian's story the Hero, the main Man, isn't you, it's Jesus.” By this statement it would seem that you are saying John is not a true Christian. I have been with him and I can tell you from personal experience that his heart bleeds for the things of God.

Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. Mathew 18:15

If we as The Church would learn to follow scripture as much as we throw it around with anger in defense of our personal beliefs, The Church could have an amazing impact on the world. I personally have seen many men find the freedom in Christ Jesus that the scriptures talk about and Wild at Heart has been a key part of it. God is using it, whether or not it falls within your Theological box.

matt


On 7/1/2003, Moses wrote:

I thank you for your commentary. I have also read the book and believe you've been a bit harsh with the author. Clearly this man teaches that the redemption of the heart comes from the Lord (WaH - Chapter on Healing the Wound). That is why, I believe, he says that our hearts need to be freed to live the way we want. The way we want to live - is to live for the Lord.

I think the overall spirit of the book was, lets live recklessly for the Lord. Be wild about it.

Moses

"So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand." Isaiah 41:10





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